Warzone So Many Hackers

[mg-simar]

Why is it that Activision cannot get rid of all the hackers on the game? Other BRs have implemented an anti-cheating system for whatever reason COD can't/won't do it? Does anyone have more info on this?

It's especially annoying seeing clips online of hackers showing/getting caught and yet they keep playing the game.

 

[KeyboardDemon]

From way back before cold war launched we did see some sort of attempt at weeding out cheats from the game. I don't play the BR and I don't know how effective that was.

What I do remember was we saw a massive number of people claiming they had been banned or had accounts suspended when they hadn't been cheating.

Then shortly after that there was anecdotal evidence that suggested the measures were working, but we were still seeing people complain about cheats.

The key thing I remember from back then was that there was a reduction in the number of people promoting or at least trying to promote cheat engines of here.

We should continue to report people posting hacks, cracks, cheat software, and stats boosting services so we can keep them off the forums.

I don't think Treyarch are announcing their anti-cheat measures as this makes it too easy for cheats to circumvent, but it also leaves players with the impression that nothing is being done.

 

[GoldcombatLE]

Why is it that Activision cannot get rid of all the hackers on the game? Other BRs have implemented an anti-cheating system for whatever reason COD can't/won't do it? Does anyone have more info on this?

It's especially annoying seeing clips online of hackers showing/getting caught and yet they keep playing the game.

Activision sells and profits off of the hacks through 3rd parties. Going on for decades this is a forecasted profit margin. It's the only explanation.

 

[mg-simar]

Activision sells and profits off of the hacks through 3rd parties. Going on for decades this is a forecasted profit margin. It's the only explanation.

I've never heard of this theory, but it is interesting. I could see that being a thing, but I feel like a huge lawsuit would've happened by now if it's been going on for decades as you mentioned. But then again, you never know.

I'm glad to see some attempts from them tho on fixing this issue when it first came out.

 

[GoldcombatLE]

I've been an avid first person gamer since 007 golden eye! I took solder of fortune double helix very seriously! We had punk buster back then! Activision looks at normal game play as not serious and most of them probably can't compete so hacks are welcome and looked at as a way for scrubs to enjoy the game. Think about it? How many losers wouldn't buy the game unless they can find a way to compete. This is still going on in BO3. Tell me why are gamers still hacking in BO3? loaded double helix a few years back and guys are still playing it in foreign countries and still hacking? Lol, so if it's a market then why not allow it in the intermerrel game play. I'm sure competition is strictly enforced. However, I would sign up personal information in order to play on servers where hacks are not allowed! I'm sure there's enough of us out here willing to do so as long as Activision is responsible with our information, but then again it won't be long until they realize a profit in that!! I'd still do it because if you hold an ID or license then your already out there. Either Activion writes the codes and pedals them to their party websites and welcomes hacks to increase the sales on all levels! Who's going to sue them? They take just enough action to have the law suits thrown out. That's if a gamer has the money to to file the suit! I'll bet it's a 10k retainer.

 

[KeyboardDemon]

Think about it?

Ok. Here are my thoughts.

From what I can see, PC players make up, at most, 20% of the player base, and most people think that the vast majority of hackers are on PC and not XBOne, PS4, Series X/S or PS5.

Even if half of all PC players were running hacks, then that would mean 10% of players are hackers. I can't see that as being a major incentive for a publisher like Activision to think they would increase revenues on a game that's sold close to 4 million copies. In my assumptions this means that hackers are only responsible for 400,000 copies of games sold.

I doubt that half of all PC players are hackers though, I think it would most likely by about 1% of PC players, which then makes up 0.2% of all players. 1% unit sales from hackers accounts for 40,000 copies sold and if I'm right in my assumptions of 0.2% then we're talking about adding 8,000 players.

People use cheats on older titles as these are less likely to be supported by the devs who are either concentrating on developing a new title or supporting the current title.

That's what I think.

Also I would never pay full price for an older title, I'd most likely only buy an older title if it was really cheap or had been remastered and launched at a special price like the MW2 Remastered game.

 

[GoldcombatLE]

Your math seems legit young padawon learner, only thing is with your math your saying the 0.2% are in almost every match. Your math needs to take 150 players in each match, and how many matches are going at once. Activision is involved! Period.

Nu.ber one hack I found almost every match was the notorious wall hack!! So easy to catch.

 

[KeyboardDemon]

Your math seems legit young padawon learner, only thing is with your math your saying the 0.2% are in almost every match. Your math needs to take 150 players in each match, and how many matches are going at once. Activision is involved! Period.

My math is referencing the number of copies of the game that were sold, not the number of people concurrently playing the game.

Activision only make money at the point of sale or when people are buying additional cod points or add-ons, not when people play the game.

Warzone has a much bigger playerbase being a free to play game, I think it was at 75 million the last time I checked.

As I recall, Warzone is the title that was getting the bulk of complaints about players cheating, I don't know what proportion of players on Warzone are on PC but I don't really think percentages would be that different to CW.

I just googled total sales for CW and it turns out they actually sold 5.7 million copies and generated $678 million by March 23, 2021.

According to your research, how much of that has come from Activision's cut from cheat engines, wall hacks, and other cheat products?

 

[GoldcombatLE]

What tesearch? To me it just makes since! COD has a problem with hackers and are chosing NOT to do anything real about it. It's like the Rose skin losers use, and most hackers use btw. Why is the all black skin still usable? How are they making money in warzone if it's free? I'll bet it's profit all around! Your not going to be able to use your data to prove it.qhen enough gamers start calling them out you'll see a miraculous change ironically.

 

[KeyboardDemon]

You're right.

Data and facts will not prove anything to you.

I'll leave you with your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that a handful of hackers are where Activision's real revenues come from. While the millions of legit players just provide pocket change through in game transactions when buying mods and skins etc...

 

[GoldcombatLE]

I was waiting for this one.......all I can say is that I am not alone in my frustrations with spending 30 min preparing myself in warzone while fighting through to the end so some jerk in a black suit wall hacks me or aimbots me. The other day I dropped in on quads and happened to be positioned perfectly to sabotage a team moving on my team immediately. I unload a whole mag into a black suit whome little glitches back in a house almost like glitch from bo3. Amazing! Beo! I'm not alone here and there's way more cheating going on then your numbers give credit to. In fact, when I get some time I'll crunch your numbers for you and prove it. Go ahead and start insulting me! I'll stand strong with my conspiracy, as if I was running activision I would want those profits over any other organization providing them. The pure fact that Activision is not doing enough about it is skeptical! It's so bad that I have even sold my new ps5 to focus on life and have no regrets. Ill pick it back up in awhile but definitely not for ww2, uh puke! I'll pick it up for modern warefare one day when they get there shizzle together. Anyways, calm down your acting like you work for Activision, if that's the case then great I struck a chord.

 

[KeyboardDemon]

I was waiting for this one.......all I can say is that I am not alone in my frustrations with spending 30 min preparing myself in warzone while fighting through to the end so some jerk in a black suit wall hacks me or aimbots me. The other day I dropped in on quads and happened to be positioned perfectly to sabotage a team moving on my team immediately. I unload a whole mag into a black suit whome little glitches back in a house almost like glitch from bo3. Amazing! Beo! I'm not alone here and there's way more cheating going on then your numbers give credit to. In fact, when I get some time I'll crunch your numbers for you and prove it. Go ahead and start insulting me! I'll stand strong with my conspiracy, as if I was running activision I would want those profits over any other organization providing them. The pure fact that Activision is not doing enough about it is skeptical! It's so bad that I have even sold my new ps5 to focus on life and have no regrets. Ill pick it back up in awhile but definitely not for ww2, uh puke! I'll pick it up for modern warefare one day when they get there shizzle together. Anyways, calm down your acting like you work for Activision, if that's the case then great I struck a chord.

You seem to have shifted your focus, a few posts ago you were talking about how Activision are not only allowing cheats but also actively encouraging cheating as they make their money from cheats until I said your claims are unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, which also had the effect of offending.

So, first, don't be offended by my reply just simply show me the money trail between people buying hacks and Activision making a profit from that and prove me wrong, it's that simple.

Then you have a couple of stories about cheats you've encountered, it would really be easier to read if you could learn to split your thoughts into paragraphs instead of dumping them onto a wall of words.

I'm not alone here and there's way more cheating going on then your numbers give credit to.

My numbers are simply a reflection of the numbers of PC players versus players using other like consoles based on what I see in each lobby when I play.

I know it wouldn't surprise you to learn that Activision have not published any numbers on how many of their players are running cheats, they are also not really publishing information on the numbers being caught then banned either.

I'll stand strong with my conspiracy, as if I was running activision I would want those profits over any other organization providing them.

It is a good thing for us that you're not running Activision, in this article you can see that Activision made over $1.7 billion in 3 months from microtransactions in Warzone, yet you claim their money comes from cheat engines and hacks.

I can tell you now, that hackers would not buy things from the CoD Store when they have access to hex editors that will allow them to add features they want for free. and when all that money could be lost if their accounts were banned.

The pure fact that Activision is not doing enough about it

This is something I agree with in terms of how little Activision appear to be doing, just not the bit about your reasoning behind it all.

Anyways, calm down your acting like you work for Activision, if that's the case then great I struck a chord.

I don't work for Activision and I don't think like I am acting as if I do either.

I am one of those people that when I get told something unbelievable is happening, then asked to "think about it" in a post that looks like it was put together without any thought, then I will do just that.

I have put in some thought and spent a few minutes using Google to help me make my mind up.

See if you can spot where Activision make money from in this video:

Or take a look at some of the measures they were taking just 2 months ago:

 

[GoldcombatLE]

My opinion is that Activision profits off of hacks, your opinion is they do not............you like small maps and m1 grands, and I like Tavor's! Ok settled, until I find more time to research your research...k bye

 

[KeyboardDemon]

My opinion is that Activision profits off of hacks, your opinion is they do not............you like small maps and m1 grands, and I like Tavor's! Ok settled, until I find more time to research your research...k bye

Cool. I can live with that.

When you do your research, do it with an open mind.

 

[HackersSuck]

Why is it that Activision cannot get rid of all the hackers on the game? Other BRs have implemented an anti-cheating system for whatever reason COD can't/won't do it? Does anyone have more info on this?

It's especially annoying seeing clips online of hackers showing/getting caught and yet they keep playing the game.

I had my acct hacked and stolen. And I know who by cause of sbmm.com now WZ stats and Call of duty companion app. If you see a user with GamingAirFryerPH or GamingtoasterPH report them both. My cod companion app shows my games and user name up till day of hack. Now the profile name on the app is Battlepants#336835

 

[KeyboardDemon]

I had my acct hacked and stolen. And I know who by cause of sbmm.com now WZ stats and Call of duty companion app. If you see a user with GamingAirFryerPH or GamingtoasterPH report them both. My cod companion app shows my games and user name up till day of hack. Now the profile name on the app is Battlepants#336835

Sorry to hear your account got hacked, this serves as a good reminder for others to use 2FA to protect their accounts.

As for reporting the person responsible, we shouldn't be asking others to report people on our behalf, this does not seem like a good idea to me. We should only report people that we were playing with or against, reporting someone for an activity that we have not witnessed just seems wrong to me.